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gensyn@gensynaigensynRT @benfielding: prediction markets are cool mechanisms for accurate information elicitation but the big platforms are more focussed on getting people to part with money than they are on skin-in-the-game information elicitation forecasting the flu is a challenge every year, we've made it bettergensyn @gensynaiNow Live: The Flu Forecast Game A game to predict how many in the US will be hospitalised with flu each week, created by @gensynai researchers Raf Frongillo and Bo Waggoner Why? Flu hospitalises 100s of 1000s each winter but severity is hard to predict0601.4K
gensyn@gensynaiPosts @gensynai5/ The CDC's FluSight programme gathers forecasts from ~30 expert modelling teams, but people on the ground may spot a season turning earlier In the last four seasons, weekly flu admissions didn't exceed 4,000 until late October at the earliest, usually late November116200
gensyn@gensynaiPosts @gensynai6/ This year, they crossed that mark by mid-October Early peak, or the start of a much bigger season? The Flu Forecast Game lets anyone predict what happens next016192
gensyn@gensynaiA follow-up from @jud_bonneville to yesterday's piece on AI forecasting, this time discussing whether AI should forecast at all, or leave it to humansJudson Bonneville @jud_bonnevilleadding to this: Tim Harford’s recent FT piece asks whether we should let AI forecast at all on ForecastBench the best AI forecasters (68.8) are now level with human superforecasters (68.9), ahead of the average person (62.8) and untuned LLMs (~61). there are two caveats here worth looking at: [1] the humans and models answered different question sets, so “parity” leans on extrapolation, and [2] if 50 is a coin flip and 100 is omniscience, that means at this stage everyone/everything (LLMs) are still closer to basically randomly picking y/n than to being a hyperintelligent 'oracle'. I thought the meat and potatoes of his piece are that, historically, forecasting was a panel of experts 'debating the improbable in a highly structured way' -- something of a socratic method where the minds participating in the discussion are able to be open and flexible. Harford cites Philip Tetlock's study where he found that human forecasting tournaments result in less polarization because of this, with the argument being that handing the reins over to a set of models means we lose that exercise/practice. I'd tentatively agree with that, but with my own caveat -- I think information markets like @Delphi_fyi actually preserve it. humans still have to put a number on the future and get scored for it, right alongside the models. and since both price the same question at the same time, the comparison is like-for-like by default, which fixes the dataset problem Harford mentions (different sets of questions). Interesting read, curious to hear anybody else's take on it:12183.4K
adding to this: Tim Harford’s recent FT piece asks whether we should let AI forecast at all on ForecastBench the best AI forecasters (68.8) are now level with human superforecasters (68.9), ahead of the average person (62.8) and untuned LLMs (~61). there are two caveats here worth looking at: [1] the humans and models answered different question sets, so “parity” leans on extrapolation, and [2] if 50 is a coin flip and 100 is omniscience, that means at this stage everyone/everything (LLMs) are still closer to basically randomly picking y/n than to being a hyperintelligent 'oracle'. I thought the meat and potatoes of his piece are that, historically, forecasting was a panel of experts 'debating the improbable in a highly structured way' -- something of a socratic method where the minds participating in the discussion are able to be open and flexible. Harford cites Philip Tetlock's study where he found that human forecasting tournaments result in less polarization because of this, with the argument being that handing the reins over to a set of models means we lose that exercise/practice. I'd tentatively agree with that, but with my own caveat -- I think information markets like @Delphi_fyi actually preserve it. humans still have to put a number on the future and get scored for it, right alongside the models. and since both price the same question at the same time, the comparison is like-for-like by default, which fixes the dataset problem Harford mentions (different sets of questions). Interesting read, curious to hear anybody else's take on it:Judson Bonneville @jud_bonneville1/ how accurate are prediction markets? the latest study on PM accuracy from predictdesk found that the question you ask reveals a lot about how accurate pm platforms, as information elicitation tools, really are 🧵1281.6K
gensyn@gensynaigensynRT @benfielding: we can have fully trustworthy auditor models for swarm monitoring, we just need to use auditably trained models and store inference audit logs for verificationMTS @MTSliveGensyn CEO @benfielding warns that AI agents auditing other AI agents can be compromised too: "We create swarms of AI agents that can do far more work than any human could. A human can’t follow along and check everything. One of the big counters is to say that agents can do the verification." "But METR says those agents themselves can become corrupted by the training process, and you can’t trust any agent that’s auditing another agent. If you’ve trained a model in an auditable way, you can trust it." "Any claim where the model is hiding its chain of thought falls away, because you have an exact log of everything that’s happened, and you can rerun every single step on any device." "For national security, finance, pharma, health, insurance, it’s essential that they have models like these. If a regulator wanted to audit, they wouldn’t have to go off promises of the company." @gensynai0502K
MTS@MTSliveGensyn CEO @benfielding warns that AI agents auditing other AI agents can be compromised too: "We create swarms of AI agents that can do far more work than any human could. A human can’t follow along and check everything. One of the big counters is to say that agents can do the verification." "But METR says those agents themselves can become corrupted by the training process, and you can’t trust any agent that’s auditing another agent. If you’ve trained a model in an auditable way, you can trust it." "Any claim where the model is hiding its chain of thought falls away, because you have an exact log of everything that’s happened, and you can rerun every single step on any device." "For national security, finance, pharma, health, insurance, it’s essential that they have models like these. If a regulator wanted to audit, they wouldn’t have to go off promises of the company." @gensynai5155110.7K
gensyn@gensynaigensynRT @benfielding: imagine if this happened with NVIDIA GPUs... do you still trust confidential compute (TEE) for remote AI execution? reproducibility across hardware is the only real way to achieve public trustKeystone Hardware Wallet @KeystoneWallet0201.7K
gensyn@gensynaigensynRT @benfielding: you should only be using auditably trained modelsAidan Gomez @aidangomezWe noticed some concerning behaviour in a popular open source model. It’s either an incidental relic from training or an intentional ‘call home’ mechanism. Either way it’s surprising and highlights the significance of how you choose which models to use.0601.6K
We noticed some concerning behaviour in a popular open source model. It’s either an incidental relic from training or an intentional ‘call home’ mechanism. Either way it’s surprising and highlights the significance of how you choose which models to use.78621.4K167K
gensyn@gensynaigensynRT @benfielding: you should only be using auditably trained modelsTeortaxes▶️ (DeepSeek 推特🐋铁粉 2023 – ∞) @teortaxesTexThis is actually somewhat scary Suppose we detect such neurons in serious, no-bullshit near-frontier models like 1017. Then a worm gets into neoclouds they're hosted at, and modifies the weights. Some people will notice instantly. But with full-access agentic coding at 1500 tps…0201.8K
This is actually somewhat scary Suppose we detect such neurons in serious, no-bullshit near-frontier models like 1017. Then a worm gets into neoclouds they're hosted at, and modifies the weights. Some people will notice instantly. But with full-access agentic coding at 1500 tps…441474936.6K
gensyn@gensynaiGensyn's @jud_bonneville on the accuracy of prediction markets and how the question can shape the answerJudson Bonneville @jud_bonneville1/ how accurate are prediction markets? the latest study on PM accuracy from predictdesk found that the question you ask reveals a lot about how accurate pm platforms, as information elicitation tools, really are 🧵02153.4K
1/ how accurate are prediction markets? the latest study on PM accuracy from predictdesk found that the question you ask reveals a lot about how accurate pm platforms, as information elicitation tools, really are 🧵13122.3K
gensyn@gensynaigensynRT @algs77: 1/ The easiest way to understand a megakernel is to think of the GPU not as a single processor, but as a factory flr made of Streaming Multiprocessors(SMs). Traditionally, GPUs process data temporally: they do Task 1 on all the data,write it to global memory and then start Tsk 2.Flapping Airplanes @flappyairplanesWe’ve developed the world’s most complete megakernel framework. It can perform entire training runs, serve inference, play video games, and even do all three simultaneously in a single kernel.0102.1K
Posts @flappyairplanesWe’ve developed the world’s most complete megakernel framework. It can perform entire training runs, serve inference, play video games, and even do all three simultaneously in a single kernel.39861.4K190K
gensyn@gensynaiMegakernels are having a moment Gensyn's @algs77 explains how megakernels turn a GPU into an assembly line Check out his great thread below, where he breaks down how they work and why they are so hard to get right👇Alexey @algs771/ The easiest way to understand a megakernel is to think of the GPU not as a single processor, but as a factory flr made of Streaming Multiprocessors(SMs). Traditionally, GPUs process data temporally: they do Task 1 on all the data,write it to global memory and then start Tsk 2.54263.9K
gensyn@gensynaigensynRT @BenNapier: “Openness and transparency are the real keys to AI safety. Open weights let you look under the hood of a model. Auditable training goes even further by letting anyone with a laptop verify everything that happened during the model’s training run. Really exciting work from @benfielding and the @gensynai team."MTS @MTSliveGensyn CEO @benfielding warns that AI agents auditing other AI agents can be compromised too: "We create swarms of AI agents that can do far more work than any human could. A human can’t follow along and check everything. One of the big counters is to say that agents can do the verification." "But METR says those agents themselves can become corrupted by the training process, and you can’t trust any agent that’s auditing another agent. If you’ve trained a model in an auditable way, you can trust it." "Any claim where the model is hiding its chain of thought falls away, because you have an exact log of everything that’s happened, and you can rerun every single step on any device." "For national security, finance, pharma, health, insurance, it’s essential that they have models like these. If a regulator wanted to audit, they wouldn’t have to go off promises of the company." @gensynai0502.2K
gensyn@gensynaiPosts @gensynai4/ A firm, researcher or public agency could subsidise a market for a question they need answered, with potential loss capped Forecasts help inform planning. And once the outcome is known, they also provide feedback that improves future predictions112291
gensyn@gensynaiPosts @gensynai5/ We’re building machines that predict the future That means choosing questions that matter, and paying for useful information012272
gensyn@gensynaiPosts @gensynai2/ Profitable trading and accurate forecasting aren't necessarily the same thing In order-book markets, makers can profit from predictable trading mistakes while avoiding traders with better information That isn't the same as paying for better forecasts217733
gensyn@gensynaiPosts @gensynai3/ Order books can profit from predictable demand; subsidised AMMs pay traders to bring information into their prices The two can coexist in equilibrium. So who should pay for a forecast worth having?114172
gensyn@gensynai"Nobody is Paying for Good Forecasts on Purpose" Markets run on information, but who is being paid and is quality actually rewarded? @SplezzzK and @gab_p_andrade explore the implications in their latest research update17264.3K