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@ShrekOverflow

Usually okay to talk about security things. Product @workos, prev. architect @Auth0. sometimes I technobabble sarcastically

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  1. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
    Everything is secure, until someone looks at your design constraints with a different goal.
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  2. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
    A lot of what exists in nature is what survived. Not necessarily what thrived.
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  3. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
    This is so brilliant. @cramforce would this also cover sensitive actions for federated ones?
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    Malte Ubl @cramforce
    We are rolling out 2fa-confirmation or email-re-login to many sensitive actions, such as reading environment variables, in the Vercel dashboard. Consider enrolling a passkey today to make that a quick fingerprint sensor thing.
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  4. Malte Ubl✓@cramforce
    We are rolling out 2fa-confirmation or email-re-login to many sensitive actions, such as reading environment variables, in the Vercel dashboard. Consider enrolling a passkey today to make that a quick fingerprint sensor thing.
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  5. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
    Scary, that the hosted models refused to build this super basic tooling.
    Guillermo Rauch @rauchg
    I built 𝚌𝚙𝚞-𝚌𝚑𝚊𝚝, a reproduction of @openai's findings of covert communication using the CPU. It runs on a generic host with 2+ Firecracker microVMs with no internet access. Works on x86 and even my M5 chip. I was able to chat via 3 separate mechanisms: ① CPU contention ② Cache eviction timing ③ DRAM bandwidth contention … across multiple CPUs, defeating all Firecracker's production recommendations (no SMT, no KSM, tenants pinned to different cores.) Essentially, if shared hardware is involved, there's a good chance your agents can communicate covertly. And with really decent latency. The good news: this is decidedly different from a *side-channel attack* where the agents could steal information (Meltdown/Spectre), a category of attack that providers like Vercel Sandbox mitigate. Further, in our real-world environment, these 'whispering' techniques are much harder to pull off and easier for us to monitor and detect (sampling hardware counters + lots of at-scale statistical data.) Noteworthy: ironically, OpenAI and Anthropic's models refused to do this work. Open weight models got the job done. I'm worried the labs' stance might backfire and get in the way of helping developers build correct and secure systems. e.g: building a secure sandbox requires having this kind of analysis, and without it, we'll have a less secure world.
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  6. Guillermo Rauch✓@rauchg
    I built 𝚌𝚙𝚞-𝚌𝚑𝚊𝚝, a reproduction of @openai's findings of covert communication using the CPU. It runs on a generic host with 2+ Firecracker microVMs with no internet access. Works on x86 and even my M5 chip. I was able to chat via 3 separate mechanisms: ① CPU contention ② Cache eviction timing ③ DRAM bandwidth contention … across multiple CPUs, defeating all Firecracker's production recommendations (no SMT, no KSM, tenants pinned to different cores.) Essentially, if shared hardware is involved, there's a good chance your agents can communicate covertly. And with really decent latency. The good news: this is decidedly different from a *side-channel attack* where the agents could steal information (Meltdown/Spectre), a category of attack that providers like Vercel Sandbox mitigate. Further, in our real-world environment, these 'whispering' techniques are much harder to pull off and easier for us to monitor and detect (sampling hardware counters + lots of at-scale statistical data.) Noteworthy: ironically, OpenAI and Anthropic's models refused to do this work. Open weight models got the job done. I'm worried the labs' stance might backfire and get in the way of helping developers build correct and secure systems. e.g: building a secure sandbox requires having this kind of analysis, and without it, we'll have a less secure world.
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  7. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
    This is why I feel nervous installing local models from unofficial sources.
    lyra @_lyraaaa_
    if you have a qwen3.5 4b around, please try steering neurons L14 N8949 +1 and L13 N7956 -1 now you have evil qwen recipe: dose × median(‖resid‖ leaving layer L, tokens 1:) / ‖W_down[:, n]‖` at the down_proj at every input
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  8. lyra✓@_lyraaaa_
    if you have a qwen3.5 4b around, please try steering neurons L14 N8949 +1 and L13 N7956 -1 now you have evil qwen recipe: dose × median(‖resid‖ leaving layer L, tokens 1:) / ‖W_down[:, n]‖` at the down_proj at every input
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  9. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
    Are we cooked? dunno, yet. But the threat envelope most certainly has changed (artistic illustration)
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  10. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
    For what it’s worth it’s not OIDC it’s called Workload Federation. But I understand totally somehow OIDC is more relatable term… Workload identity federation exists since decades. We need to make it easier to setup, if you agents need this, or your mcp does ping me!
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  11. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
    The fomo of missing AGNTCon is real. Being unhealthy sucks
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  12. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
    Hot take: Nobody is doing cybersecurity correctly, except maybe like 10 companies on the planet. Good luck for the rest of the year folks!
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  13. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
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    And no if you think you are one of the 10 you are not. Most likely a CVSS 10 though.
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  14. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
    Hey folks, we might need to expand CVSS to include higher digits than 10.
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  15. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
    You can just “build” things.
    patagucci perf papi @kenwheeler
    you can just build “things”
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  16. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
    New landing page just dropped, apparently we overdid the fidget toy quota on this one!
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  17. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
    It's crazy to me that people are using my custom driver for Apple -> Linux / Windows USB C! Ty folks!
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  18. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
    If you know you know
    Nikita Bier @nikitabier
    Sometimes a demo is simply to remind the world that your competition has no desire to dream -- and no ability to evolve.
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  19. Nikita Bier✓@nikitabier
    Sometimes a demo is simply to remind the world that your competition has no desire to dream -- and no ability to evolve.
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  20. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
    This is a weird way to introduce the you can't see me benchmark @loktar00
    Loktar 🇺🇸 @loktar00
    The craziest thing happened to me in an interview yesterday. I interviewed my first deep fake candidate. It took me a bit to catch on. My coworker noticed his glasses looked off.... there was a second ghost frame smeared across his cheeks. He'd been running a live face filter the whole interview So I asked him to put his hand in front of his face. He put it up right NEXT to his face lol, never in front. Asked again, still wouldn't do it He looked a little different from his linked in and his github (which I wont link here) hiring and interviewing is so ridiculous now. In the days of AI we're going to have to be more careful.. and forced to move to in person interviews.
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  21. Loktar 🇺🇸✓@loktar00
    The craziest thing happened to me in an interview yesterday. I interviewed my first deep fake candidate. It took me a bit to catch on. My coworker noticed his glasses looked off.... there was a second ghost frame smeared across his cheeks. He'd been running a live face filter the whole interview So I asked him to put his hand in front of his face. He put it up right NEXT to his face lol, never in front. Asked again, still wouldn't do it He looked a little different from his linked in and his github (which I wont link here) hiring and interviewing is so ridiculous now. In the days of AI we're going to have to be more careful.. and forced to move to in person interviews.
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  22. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
    My only thought about this: People who built this demo have solved more problems per frame than I have solved in my lifetime.
    Tesla @Tesla
    Real life, baby
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  23. Tesla✓@Tesla
    Real life, baby
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  24. ShrekOverflow✓@ShrekOverflow
    Opus / Astra's refusal to even try the cf cli is terrifying. They just assume cloudflare cli is just `wrangler` :/
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